During the past week I was in a chat about the new version of "OBSD 6.0" and I had talk about "Debian 8.5", comparatives are next step. I don't want to say "who is better, or fast, or nice, or....." I prepared this post with the instalation process in both O.S. and post instalation process, smart people have to identify which is better. (my personal opinion is Debian off course...) I Choose VirtualBox, last version and my ASUS TP300La notebook as the hardware. &4 bits in both VM Servers and ISOs. Trying to do the standard process in both. The complete process is this:
Environments with both servers, same virtual configuration 1 cpu, 1 gb ram, disco near 12 gb, network bridged, sound/usb connected. (both standard options)
Installation. The option to choose Graphic and Text install is a "+1", with the graphic install you could check your video card/monitor too.
Debian could choose Graphic or Text install, (Text selected) OBsd 6.0, just text install
Debian Select Keyboard and Location, timezone. OBSD Select Keyboard
Install Part 2. OBsd hostname, ethernet card, dhcp, ipv6. Select services to startup, ssh, X server, Timezone. Debian, name, password, user. (not network config yet).
Disk partition. Simple way Whole disk / Entire Disk.
Debian all in one partition, EXT4 98%, Swap 2% OBSD. 10 partitions (may be too much) or net, depending of the usage of the server. for Real service bringing service to lots of users, this is great. For 1 user not too much.
Packages / APP.
OBSD, select HTTP to install them. Debian, installing "base packages", kernel, some basic tools, and config them into disk, and later ask for Mirrors (repositories)
Select all packages from Standard Install, define PROXY and go. OBSD, select all packages (default), near 1 minute to install all of them (7) using cd0 (local cd)
Debian, select Mirror, define proxy. Less than 1 min. to download packages info. Select GUI, services and "blends", I choose XFCE (a bit largeheavy than others), ssh. (d7c) More than 5 minutes to download and install 1047 packages (basic, + xfce + services), timing related to speed of access to internet. Install GRUB (1 second)
OBSD reboot and start it.
Running OBSD less than 1 minute and running in GUI. Type usepass and graph terminal (o9b). 2nd reboot, same time... I guess the first boot was really fast and no special differences between 1th and 2nd boot.
Debian, reboot, startup. With XFCE4, login. XFCE4 running (d9b)
OBSD, useradd -b /home/dac -m dac (create a new user) not sure what's the error, but the pkg_check failed. (o10) pkg_add mc (failed too). export PKG_PATH=http://ftp2.eu.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/$(uname -r)/packages/$(uname -p)/ pkg_add mc (error, I can't install it) The PKG_ADD is similar to "APT/APT_GET" in debian the Ports folder is similar to "Rolling release" where an APP is downloaded (source), and compiled in each server. Installing "screen" utility
quirks-2.241 signed on 2016-07-26T16:56:10Z Ambiguous: choose package for screen a 0: 1: screen-4.0.3p6 2: screen-4.0.3p6-shm Your choice: 1 screen-4.0.3p6: ok
quirks-2.241 signed on 2016-07-26T16:56:10Z Error from http://ftp2.eu.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/6.0/packages/amd64/mc-4.8.16p0.tgz ftp: ftp2.eu.openbsd.org: no address associated with name Can't find CONTENTS from http://ftp2.eu.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/6.0/packages/amd64/mc-4.8.16p0.tgz --- mc-4.8.16p0 ------------------- Can't install mc-4.8.16p0: bad package I FOUND THE ERROR I had to add this lines in /root/.profile file to define REPO online and THE PROXY. export PKG_PATH=http://ftp2.eu.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/$(uname -r)/packages/$(uname -p)/ export http_proxy="http://192.168.1.2:8080" export https_proxy=$http_proxy export HTTP_PROXY=$http_proxy export HTTPS_PROXY=$http_proxy export ftp_proxy=$http_proxy export FTP_PROXY=$http_proxy After this, pkg_add install mc quirks-2.241 signed on 2016-07-26T16:56:10Z Can't find install mc-4.8.16p0:libffi-3.2.1p2: ok mc-4.8.16p0:python-2.7.12: ok mc-4.8.16p0:glib2-2.48.1: ok mc-4.8.16p0:png-1.6.23: ok mc-4.8.16p0:oniguruma-5.9.6: ok mc-4.8.16p0:libslang-2.2.4p2: ok mc-4.8.16p0:libssh2-1.7.0: ok mc-4.8.16p0:gdiff-3.3p0: ok mc-4.8.16p0:unzip-6.0p9: ok mc-4.8.16p0: ok Look in /uslocal/share/doc/pkg-readmes for extra documentation. --- +python-2.7.12 ------------------- If you want to use this package as your default system python, as root create symbolic links like so (overwriting any previous default): ln -sf /uslocal/bin/python2.7 /uslocal/bin/python ln -sf /uslocal/bin/python2.7-2to3 /uslocal/bin/2to3 ln -sf /uslocal/bin/python2.7-config /uslocal/bin/python-config ln -sf /uslocal/bin/pydoc2.7 /uslocal/bin/pydoc I installed "PORTS" too. wget http://ftp2.eu.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/6.0/ports.tar.gz Untar it into /usports (141 mb used)
pkg_add install xfce
quirks-2.241 signed on 2016-07-26T16:56:10Z Can't find install Error from http://ftp2.eu.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/6.0/packages/amd64/xfce-4.12p3.tgz ftp: ftp2.eu.openbsd.org: no address associated with name Can't find CONTENTS from http://ftp2.eu.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/6.0/packages/amd64/xfce-4.12p3.tgz --- xfce-4.12p3 ------------------- Can't install xfce-4.12p3: bad package Debian, apt update, apt upgrade, apt dist-upgrade (the standard way to update server) (d10). apt install screen apt-get install screen Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Suggested packages: byobu | screenie | iselect The following NEW packages will be installed: screen 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 586 kB of archives. After this operation, 1004 kB of additional disk space will be used. Get:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 screen amd64 4.4.0-4 [586 kB] Fetched 586 kB in 9s (64.3 kB/s) Selecting previously unselected package screen. (Reading database ... 84818 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../screen_4.4.0-4_amd64.deb ... Unpacking screen (4.4.0-4) ... Processing triggers for systemd (231-4) ... Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ... Setting up screen (4.4.0-4) ... Processing triggers for systemd (231-4) ... apt-get install mc Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following additional packages will be installed: mc-data Suggested packages: arj catdvi | texlive-binaries dbview djvulibre-bin genisoimage gv imagemagick links | w3m | lynx odt2txt poppler-utils python-boto python-tz zip The following NEW packages will be installed: mc mc-data 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 1776 kB of archives. After this operation, 7112 kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Get:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 mc-data all 3:4.8.17-1 [1265 kB] Get:2 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 mc amd64 3:4.8.17-1 [511 kB] Fetched 1776 kB in 6s (259 kB/s) Selecting previously unselected package mc-data. (Reading database ... 84878 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../0-mc-data_3%3a4.8.17-1_all.deb ... Unpacking mc-data (3:4.8.17-1) ... Selecting previously unselected package mc. Preparing to unpack .../1-mc_3%3a4.8.17-1_amd64.deb ... Unpacking mc (3:4.8.17-1) ... Processing triggers for mime-support (3.60) ... Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.23-1) ... Setting up mc-data (3:4.8.17-1) ... Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ... Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.15-1) ... Setting up mc (3:4.8.17-1) ... update-alternatives: using /usbin/mcview to provide /usbin/view (view) in auto mode In Debian to compare instalation process to OBSD, I think in download linux-sources and "compile" tools and install from Source. (gcc, make, others) apt-get install linux-sources
Resources Used. Make sense to invest hours to use 50 mb less in something ? Our notebooks/servers have 4/8/64gb ram..... and Teras in disks.
Debian. (d11) Running with basic/network/standards tools Firefox, Libreoffice, Gimp, Ristretto & VLC. Disk space used 3gb Memory near 190 mb used (swap free), less than 0.3% CPU usage. Service running (ssh 22) Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on udev 513M 0 513M 0% /dev tmpfs 105M 3.5M 102M 4% /run /dev/sda1 12G 3.0G 8.0G 28% / tmpfs 523M 70k 523M 1% /dev/shm tmpfs 5.3M 4.1k 5.3M 1% /run/lock tmpfs 523M 0 523M 0% /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs 105M 4.1k 105M 1% /run/use115 tmpfs 105M 8.2k 105M 1% /run/use1000 Active Internet connections (servers and established) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN tcp 0 0 192.168.10.168:22 192.168.10.156:34968 ESTABLISHED tcp6 0 0 :::22 :::* LISTEN udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:5353 0.0.0.0:* udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:57911 0.0.0.0:* udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:68 0.0.0.0:* udp6 0 0 :::5353 :::* udp6 0 0 :::60036 :::* raw6 0 0 :::58 :::* 7 OpenBsd 6, running, only basic tools installed and no GUI tools (o11) 600 mb on disk, 54 mb used (with FVWM GUI) Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0a 530M 42.1M 461M 8% / /dev/wd0k 4.5G 20.0K 4.3G 0% /home /dev/wd0d 841M 20.0K 799M 0% /tmp /dev/wd0f 1.3G 372M 900M 29% /usr /dev/wd0g 776M 212M 525M 29% /usX11R6 /dev/wd0h 2.9G 5.2M 2.7G 0% /uslocal /dev/wd0j 1.6G 2.0K 1.5G 0% /usobj /dev/wd0i 1.2G 2.0K 1.1G 0% /ussrc /dev/wd0e 1.2G 5.3M 1.2G 0% /var Active Internet connections (including servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) ip 0 0 .. 17 Active Internet connections (including servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) tcp 0 0 192.168.10.167.22 192.168.10.156.58616 ESTABLISHED tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1.25 . LISTEN tcp 0 0 .22 *. LISTEN Active Internet connections (including servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) udp 0 0 192.168.10.167.25592 22.214.171.124.123 udp 0 0 192.168.10.167.14580 126.96.36.199.123 udp 0 0 192.168.10.167.34583 188.8.131.52.123 udp 0 0 .514 *. Active Internet connections (including servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) tcp6 0 0 .22 *. LISTEN tcp6 0 0 fe80::1%lo0.25 . LISTEN tcp6 0 0 ::1.25 . LISTEN Active Internet connections (including servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) udp6 0 0 .514 *.
OBSD PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 1 ?? Is 0:01.00 /sbin/init 84152 ?? Is 0:00.00 dhclient: em0 [priv] (dhclient) 74648 ?? Isp 0:00.00 dhclient: em0 (dhclient) 42357 ?? Isp 0:00.00 syslogd: [priv] (syslogd) 2432 ?? Sp 0:00.01 /ussbin/syslogd 36845 ?? Is 0:00.00 pflogd: [priv] (pflogd) 83868 ?? Sp 0:00.01 pflogd: [running] -s 160 -i pflog0 -f /valog/pflog 25347 ?? Ip 0:00.01 ntpd: dns engine (ntpd) 549 ?? S
Remote access SSH, not too different.
Debian The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software; the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usshare/doc/*/copyright. Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. Last login: Fri Sep 2 11:39:49 2016 from 192.168.10.156 [email protected]:~$ OBSD Last login: Fri Sep 2 11:43:13 2016 OpenBSD 6.0 (GENERIC) #2148: Tue Jul 26 12:55:20 MDT 2016 Welcome to OpenBSD: The pro-actively secure Unix-like operating system. Please use the sendbug(1) utility to report bugs in the system. Before reporting a bug, please try to reproduce it with the latest version of the code. With bug reports, please try to ensure that enough information to reproduce the problem is enclosed, and if a known fix for it exists, include that as well.
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